let's look at president obama. he, for the most part, was not very aggressive, to say the least, when it came to challenging governor romney on some of the specific but there was a moment where he tried on the issue of health care and on the issue of his economic plan. watch this. >> he says that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan. that's how it's going to be paid for. but we don't know the details. he says that he's going to, uh, replace dodd-frank, wall street reform. we don't know exactly which ones. he won't tell us. now he says he's going to replace obamacare and assure that all the good things that are in it are going to be in there and you don't have to worry. and at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? >> now a big part of debate prep and of getting ready for this -- in fact, brett, i talked to you about this before the debate itself, because you hel